In this video, when The Augusta Rule™ co-founder Nethaniel Ealy flew 18 hours to Puerto Rico to meet tax attorney John Hyre, he wasn’t looking for approval, he wanted to stress-test the system.
John’s rate? $1,000 an hour. (He’s $1,800 now and booked)
The result? A partnership.
John shares how Nethaniel’s work on The Augusta Rule™ app revealed new nuance even he hadn’t seen in 30 years of tax law, and why he chose to join the mission to make tax-free income accessible and compliant for business owners.
What you’ll hear:
- Why John calls the app a “Monorail for compliance”
- How real implementation beats theory
- The difference between “big-boy tax deductions” and how most small businesses operate
- Why this system gives normal business owners access to the same strategies as Fortune 500 companies
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Video Transcript:
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So, I reside in Puerto Rico. Nathaniel
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wants to come stress test this. He’s
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he’s got this idea. He’s run with it.
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He’s read the code. He’s he’s done a lot
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of work on this. And I got to say, for
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for a normie, he did a really good job,
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meaning not a tax guy, right? And what
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impressed me, first of all, was he was
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willing. I mean, flying from Idaho down
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to Puerto Rico is non-trivial.
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It was 18 hours one way, 20 the other.
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And and he was willing to come and spend
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the time and pay me. And I’m not cheap.
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I go to thousand an hour for now.
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That’ll change. And so I was somewhat
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impressed because I know he values his
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time. He doesn’t play. He was willing to
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pay. And when he came, we talked. I did
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what I do. I’m very good at what I do. I
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don’t mean that to sound unhumble. It’s
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just it is true.
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What he does.
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And I was able to find both more
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opportunities with the rule as well as a
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few holes. And that’s been incorporated
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into the app. And so,
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so you’re saying even in our time
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together, you discovered more nuance to
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the August rule than you understood or
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known.
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Look, I wasn’t gonna not be ready for
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you.
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Yeah.
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That was not going to happen, especially
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when you were paying by the hour, which
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he’s not. He was, but now he’s not. How
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does he get away with that? Cuz that’s
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true genius.
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And it was me. He comes down and we’re
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going through this and I’ve seen so many
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people that don’t use the rule. And I
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love this concept of this app that makes
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it happen, but you still comply with the
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law.
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Yeah,
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I love this. And I’ve seen it in other
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contexts. I’ve seen other tax apps.
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Yeah.
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That, for example, when it comes to
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figuring out what’s a reasonable salary
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to pay an S corporation owner, which is
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a hugely important issue, or how to do
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small cost segregation studies. I’ve
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seen some software and apps that change
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the game that that make it attainable
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for the normal person to go after big
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boy tax deductions because
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they can now comply.
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Yeah.
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So, I’m very friendly and open to the
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idea of an app
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making things doable.
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Well, it creates a Montreal is what it
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does. The app is not complicated. It’s
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just that there’s so much research
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that’s gone into it. And so, basically,
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what what does a Montreal A Montreal
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says, “You are here. You’re going here.
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Door is closing now. Hold the rail.”
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Like, it just tells you exactly where
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you’re at and where you’re going, and
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you don’t have a choice where
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the monal is complicated, just not to
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the rider.
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Yes. Correct.
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Because there are moving parts to this
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app and we’ve spent some time. So, he
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did a miracle. I This has never happened
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before.
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He I had a good number of hours at my
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rate, a nice chunk of change, and
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instead of taking the billable hours,
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which is just hurts me to say that.
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I I I said to him, I said, “I’d like to
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be a I really believe in this. I want to
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be a part of this.” He didn’t ask me. I
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asked him, “I want to be a part of this
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because I’ve seen this work with other
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tax concepts, and I think it’s ripe with
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the Augusta rule.